Abbotsford residents fed up with pub and parking lot problems

 

 
 
 
 
Murray Lissner, Paul Goodman, Karen Davies, Colin Radom, and Shellie Ware, left to right, are some of the condo residents complaining about problems and noise from the adjacent Finnegan's Pub and Phoenix Lounge and AESC parking lot.
 

Murray Lissner, Paul Goodman, Karen Davies, Colin Radom, and Shellie Ware, left to right, are some of the condo residents complaining about problems and noise from the adjacent Finnegan's Pub and Phoenix Lounge and AESC parking lot.

Photograph by: Rochelle Baker , Abbotsford Times

Summer may herald the opportunity for quiet time on the patio for some Abbotsford residents, but for others it's the season that brings a constant barrage of noise.

A number of residents in the College Park condo complex say they are plagued with noise and problems from Finnegan's Pub and Phoenix Lounge at 33780 King Road, next to the Abbotsford Entertainment and Sports Centre.

All the residents live in an east facing building that, as well as being kitty corner to the lounge and pub, runs parallel to an AESC parking lot that is also a source of constant headaches.

Shellie Ware, whose fourth floor corner suite is closest to the pub and overlooks the parking lot in question, said noise from the pub is year round, but it becomes unbearable in the summer.

"Thursday through Saturday when I lay my head on my pillow . . . the thumping in incredible. You can't sleep," said Ware.

While the establishment may have limits to how loud they can play music, they can't or won't do anything to control clients "shouting and hooting" on the patio, she said.

But in addition to noise from the establishment, which tends to float across to the AESC and bounce back towards the complex, are the constant problems in the parking lot that the AESC allows the pub to use.

When the bar closes at 1 a.m. people simply make their way to the parking lot to continue partying, said Ware, adding she's seen fights, public urination and even people having sex underneath residents' windows.

"Honestly, the noise sounds like these people are right in my bedroom," said Ware.

Not long ago, a party bus rolled into the lot and spent the entire night parked at the back of the lot right next to the condo property, added strata member Karen Davies.

"There was a fight and the noise was so bad I thought somebody was being killed," she said.

The building's strata council would like to see AESC or the pub and lounge ensure that people exit the lot in a timely manner, or better yet, lock it up and prevent patrons from using it all.

"It doesn't seem that the pub security or police patrols are as effective as they could be," said Davies.

Some problems identified by residents in 2009, such as music levels, light pollution and noise from the AESC heating, ventilation and air conditioning systems have improved or been addressed but rowdiness spilling out from the pub has not, she said.

However, Paul Esposito, owner of Finnegan's Pub and Phoenix Lounge, said he's done all he can over three years to address the issues and dismissed residents' remaining complaints.

"We've done everything we possibly can for these people," said Esposito.

"They are all idiotic complaints."

Residents shouldn't be leaving their windows open if they were bothered by the noise, added Esposito.

The pub has parking security until 1 a.m. or 2 a.m., he added.

Esposito said he couldn't control patrons' behaviour in the lot after they left the pub.

"Stupid people do stupid things. What are you going to do?"

Davies said that residents have stopped complaining to the City of Abbotsford, which simply replies that the pub is complying with city bylaws.

The strata have had better response by the B.C. Liquor Control and Licensing Branch but investigators have not inspected during the summer season, said Davies.

What's more, it's not clear they have a mandate to address problems in the parking lot, she said.

AESC general manager, Jason Blumenfeld, said he was aware that there had been some problems in the past but that he believed the majority had been resolved.

He's not been aware of complaints about the lot the AESC shares with Finnegan's and the Phoenix, he said.

"This is the first I've heard of it," said Blumenfeld.

"Now that it's been brought to my attention, we'll look into and see what we can do."

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Murray Lissner, Paul Goodman, Karen Davies, Colin Radom, and Shellie Ware, left to right, are some of the condo residents complaining about problems and noise from the adjacent Finnegan's Pub and Phoenix Lounge and AESC parking lot.
 

Murray Lissner, Paul Goodman, Karen Davies, Colin Radom, and Shellie Ware, left to right, are some of the condo residents complaining about problems and noise from the adjacent Finnegan's Pub and Phoenix Lounge and AESC parking lot.

Photograph by: Rochelle Baker , Abbotsford Times

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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